Civil Discourse – Redacted: Donald & Jeffrey – Joyce Vance

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Civil Discourse with Joyce Vance

Civil Discourse with Joyce Vance

Redacted: Donald & Jeffrey

By Joyce Vance, Dec 20, 2025

Redacted: Donald & Jeffrey by Joyce Vance

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Editor’s Note: Above are links and information about the new post from Joyce. Below is a brief excerpt and the insights are alarming. Thank you Joyce.. — DrWeb

Once again, Iโ€™m apologizing at the top of a longer-than-Iโ€™d-like-it-to-be Saturday night column. Nonetheless, whether youโ€™re just getting in from a holiday party or waking up early for a busy day (or perhaps late, given ongoing festivities), I hope youโ€™ll take a moment to work your way through all of it. [Joyce]

Donโ€™t mistake two of this weekโ€™s attention-getter stories, Trump renaming the Kennedy Center in his own honor and the unveiling of unpresidential plaques at the White House deriding Presidents Obama and Biden, for anything other than what they are. They are clickbait, designed to foment outrage. An effort to distract us from the main event, the Justice Departmentโ€™s failure to release the Epstein files, which Congress required it to do by last Friday in the Epstein Files Transparency Act.
–Joyce Vance, Civil Discourse, 2025

There are no surprises here. Republicans were willing to let the government shutdown linger to avoid reopening and the inevitable passage of the Epstein Files Transparency Act. Even after the shutdown ended, House Speaker Mike Johnson delayed swearing in newly elected Arizona Democratic Representative Adelita Grijalva for 50 days after her September 2025 special election because she was the vote that would put the discharge petition for the Act in motion. They may have voted for the bill, but that was only after public pressure had made its passage, and the consequences for members who didnโ€™t vote for it, all but inevitable.


So while there are lots of pictures of President Clinton, there are very few of Trump, and reporting that one that was initially released was clawed back. By the end of the day, the AP was reporting 16 items had been removed from the released documents. There is page after page of redaction, and also redactions on documents that look interesting but have all possible meaning and context removed. Itโ€™s not exactly full-throated compliance with a law called the โ€œTransparency Act.โ€

Part of DOJโ€™s release of Epstein Documents on Friday.

None of this is surprising. Not DOJโ€™s failure to comply with the lawโ€”Friday was the deadline Congress set for turning over the files, not a start date, which was how DOJ treated it. Not DOJโ€™s failure to release material that would give the survivors more insight into the crimes committed against them and who was responsible. Thatโ€™s important for survivors, not just so that they can understand and heal, but because theyโ€™ve had to fight to be believed, and they have been so easily cast aside.

There was one instance in the release that illustrates this. Maria Farmer had reported in 1996 that Epstein stole nude photos of her sisters Annie, then 16, and a younger sister who was 12 at the time. Among the documents released Friday is one that confirms she was telling the truth. She came forward despite Epsteinโ€™s threats of harm to her. She was broadly disbelieved.

Document excerpt

The highlighted portion of the document reads: โ€œEpstein stole the photos and negatives and is believed to have sold the pictures to potential buyers. Epstein at one time requested REDACTED to take pictures of young girls at swimming pools. Epstein is now threatening REDACTED that if she tells anyone about the photos he will burn her house downโ€

Also lacking in the release was anything that clarified Donald Trumpโ€™s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. There were plenty of salacious photos of Bill Clintonโ€”interesting in light of Trump Chief of Staff Susie Wilesโ€™ admission to Vanity Fair that Trump wrongly claimed the files implicated the former president in visits to Epstein Island. But there is nothing that helps us better understand Trumpโ€™s involvement. Wiles acknowledged that Trump โ€œwas on [Epsteinโ€™s] plane … heโ€™s on the manifest. They were, you know, sort of young, single, whatever โ€” I know itโ€™s a passรฉ word but sort of young, single playboys together.โ€ Trump has denied any wrongdoing but is apparently unwilling to release materials that would bear that out if itโ€™s the case.

Editor’s Note: Read the rest of the story, at the below link.

Continue/Read Original Article: https://joycevance.substack.com/p/redacted-donald-and-jeffrey


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